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    Captive bred makes no difference. Black rats are specifically prohibited. Other subspecies are not, but anything which can be identified as "Elaphe obsoleta obsoleta", or a hybrid or intergrade thereof, is prohibited. Since black rats are not a distinct subspecies, but are actually dark northern populations of three different species, technically, all three species are prohibited by extension [but not in practice]:

    Scotophis obsoletus [prohibited because E.obsoleta obsoleta cannot be reliably distinguished]
    Scotophis spiloides [prohibited because E.obsoleta obsoleta cannot be reliably distinguished]
    Scotophis alleghaniensis [prohibited because E.obsoleta obsoleta cannot be reliably distinguished]

    So basically, if it looks at all like a "black rat", it's clearly illegal.

    http://cnah.org/pdf_files/969.pdf
    http://cnah.org/pdf_files/968.pdf
    http://cnah.org/pdf_files/687.pdf
    http://cnah.org/pdf_files/1007.pdf
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    OK here is the list taken again from the queens printer..
    Part 5
    Non‑game Animals
    Ambystoma macrodactylum (Long‑toed Salamander)
    Bufo cognatus (Great Plains Toad)
    Scaphiopus bombifrons (Plains Spadefoot Toad)
    Bufo hemiophrys (Canadian Toad)
    Rana pretiosa [(Western) Spotted Frog]
    Chrysemys picta (Western Painted Turtle)
    Pituophis melanoleucus [Bull (Gopher) Snake]
    Heterodon nasicus (Western Hognose Snake)
    Crotalus viridis (Prairie Rattlesnake)

    Part 6
    Non‑licence Animals

    Ambystoma tigrinum (Tiger Salamander)
    Bufo boreas [Boreal (Western) Toad]
    Pseudacris triseriata (Chorus Frog)
    Rana sylvatica (Wood Frog)
    Thamnophis sirtalis (Red‑sided Garter Snake)
    Thamnophis radix (Plains Garter Snake)
    Thamnophis elegans (Wandering Garter Snake)

    Schedule 5

    (Section 4(1)(h) of this Regulation)

    Controlled Animals
    NOTES: 1 Animals listed in this Schedule, as a general rule, are described in the left hand column by reference to common or descriptive names and in the right hand column by reference to scientific names. But, in the event of any conflict as to the kind of animals that are listed, a scientific name in the right hand column prevails over the corresponding common or descriptive name in the left hand column.
    2 Also included in this Schedule is any animal that is the hybrid offspring resulting from the crossing, whether before or after the commencement of this Schedule, of 2 animals at least one of which is or was an animal of a kind that is a controlled animal by virtue of this Schedule.
    3 This Schedule excludes all wildlife animals, and therefore if a wildlife animal would, but for this Note, be included in this Schedule, it is hereby excluded from being a controlled animal.

    Part 3
    Reptiles (Class Reptilia)
    1. SNAPPING TURTLES (Family Chelydridae)
    Snapping Turtle Chelydra serpentina
    Alligator Snapping Turtle Macroclemys temmincki
    2. FRESHWATER TURTLES (Family Emydidae)
    Blanding’s Turtle Emydoidea blandingii
    European Pond Turtle Emys orbicularis
    Map Turtles Genus Graptemys
    3. MUD TURTLES (Family Kinosternidae)
    Mud Turtles Genus Kinosternon
    4. SOFT‑SHELLED TURTLES (Family Trionychidae)
    Soft‑shelled Turtles Genus Trionyx
    5. ALL ALLIGATORS AND CAIMANS
    (Family Alligatoridae)
    Alligators Genus Alligator
    Spectacled Caimans Genus Caiman
    Black Caiman Melanosuchus niger
    Smooth‑fronted Caimans Genus Paleosuchus
    6. ALL CROCODILES (Family Crocodylidae)
    Crocodiles Genus Crocodylus
    African Dwarf Crocodile Osteolaemus tetraspis
    Sunda Crocodile
    (False Gavial) Tomistoma schlegeli
    7. ALL GAVIALS (Family Gavialidae)
    Gavial or Gharial Gavialis gangeticus
    8. ALL BEADED LIZARDS (Family Helodermatidae)
    Gila Monster Heloderma suspectum
    Mexican Beaded Lizard Heloderma horridum
    9. LIZARDS (Family Lacertidae)
    Viviparous Lizard Lacerta vivipara
    10. MONITORS (Family Varanidae)
    Bengal Monitor Varanus bengalensis
    Perentie Monitor Varanum giganteus
    Komodo Dragon Varanus komodoensis
    Nile Monitor Varanus niloticus
    Crocodile Monitor Varanus salvadorii
    Water (Lace) Monitor Varanus salvator
    Variegated Monitor Varanus varius
    11. LARGE SNAKES (Family Boidae)
    Amethystine Python Python (Morelia)
    amethystinus
    Burmese/Indian Rock
    Pythons Python molurus
    Oenpelli Python Python (Morelia)
    oenpelliensis
    Reticulated Python Python reticulatus
    African Rock Python Python sebae
    Anacondas Genus Eunectes
    12. TYPICAL SNAKES (Family Colubridae)

    Subfamily Aparallactinae

    Ground Vipers Genus Amblyodipsas
    Genus Aparallactus
    Genus Atractaspis
    Genus Calamelaps
    Genus Chilorhinophis
    Genus Homorelaps
    Genus Macrelaps
    Genus Micrelaps
    Genus Miodan
    Genus Polemon

    Subfamily Boiginae

    Rear-fanged Snakes Genus Amphlorhinus
    Genus Apostolepis
    Genus Boiga
    Genus Chamaetortus
    Genus Clelia
    Genus Coniophanes
    Genus Dipsadoboa
    Genus Dispholidus
    Genus Erythrolamprus
    Genus Geodipsas
    Genus Hemirhagerrhis
    Genus Hypsiglena
    Genus Imantodes
    Genus Ithycyphus
    Genus Langaha
    Genus Leptodeira
    Genus Lycodryas
    Genus Malpolon
    Genus Manalepis
    Genus Mimophis
    Genus Opisthoplus
    Genus Oxbelis
    Genus Oxyrhopus
    Genus Parapostelepis
    Genus Phimophis
    Genus Psammodynates
    Genus Psammophis
    Genus Psammophylax
    Genus Siplophis
    Genus Telescopus
    Genus Thelotornis
    Genus Tomodon
    Genus Tripanurgos
    Last edited by ToddPeddle; 12-02-2008 at 06:43 PM.
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    Subfamily Colubrinae

    American Racer Coluber constrictor
    Sharptail Snake Contia tenuis
    Smooth Snakes Genus Coronella
    Pere David’s Rat Snake Elaphe davidi
    Steppe Rat Snake Elaphe dione
    Himalayan Trinket Snake Elaphe hodgsoni
    Black Rat Snake Elaphe obsoleta obsoleta
    Red‑backed Snake Elaphe rufodorsata
    Russian Rat Snake Elaphe schrencki
    Fox Snake Elaphe vulpina
    Hognose Snakes Heterodon platyrhinos,
    Heterodon simus
    Parrot Snakes Genus Leptophis
    Eastern Milksnake Lampropeltis triangulum
    triangulum
    Pale Milksnake Lampropeltis multistrata
    Smooth Green Snake Opheodrys vernalis
    Diadem Snakes Genus Spalerosophis
    Tropical Rat Snakes Genus Spilotes

    Subfamily Homalopsinae

    Water Snakes Genus Bitia
    Genus Cerberus
    Genus Enhydris
    Genus Erpeton (Herpeton)
    Genus Fordonia
    Genus Homalopsis
    Genus Hurria
    Genus Myron

    Subfamily Lycodontinae

    Wolf Snakes Genus Dinodon
    Genus Lycophidion

    Subfamily Natricinae

    Water Snakes Genus Amastridium
    Genus Amphiesma
    Ringnecked Snakes Genus Diadophis
    Genus Gonyosoma
    Genus Helicops
    Genus Macropisthodon
    Dice Snakes Natrix tesselata
    Genus Paraptychophis
    Genus Pseudoxenodon
    Genus Ptychophis
    Genus Rhabdophis
    Butler’s Garter Snake Thamnophis butleri
    Eastern Ribbon Snakes Thamnophis sauritus
    Genus Xenochrophis

    Subfamily Xenodontinae

    Odd-toothed Snakes Genus Ialtris
    Genus Paroxyrhopus
    Genus Platynion
    Genus Uromacer
    Genus Xenodon
    13. ALL COBRAS AND ALLIES (Family Elapidae)
    Death Adders Genus Acanthophis
    Shield-nosed Cobras Genus Aspidelaps
    Genus Aspidomorphus
    Australian Copperheads Genus Austrelaps
    Water Cobras Genus Boulengerina
    Kraits Genus Bungarus
    Australian Crowned Snakes Genus Cacophis
    Oriental Coral Snakes Genus Calliophis
    Small-eyed Snakes Genus Cryptophis
    Australian Whip Snakes Genus Demansia
    Mambas Genus Dendroaspis
    Genus Denisonia
    Australian Crowned Snakes Genus Drysdalia
    Bardick’s Snakes Genus Echiopsis
    Little Brown Snakes Genus Elapognathus
    Venomous Garter Snakes Genus Elapsoidea
    Red-naped Snakes Genus Furina
    Australian Brown‑headed
    Snakes Genus Glyphodon
    Spitting (Ringed) Cobras Genus Hemachatus
    Genus Hemiaspis
    Genus Hoplocephalus
    Slender Coral Snakes Genus Leptomicrurus
    Genus Loveridgelaps
    Long-glanded Coral Snakes Genus Maticora
    Arizona Coral Snakes Genus Micruroides
    American Coral Snakes Genus Micrurus
    Cobras Genus Naja
    Australian Black‑naped
    Snakes Genus Neelaps
    Tiger Snakes Genus Notechis
    Fijian Snakes Genus Ogmodon
    King Cobras Genus Ophiophagus
    Taipan Genus Oxyuranus
    Fierce Snakes Genus Parademansia
    Burrowing CobrasGenus Paranaja
    Hediger’s Snakes Genus Parapistocalamus
    Australian Black Snakes Genus Pseudechis
    Forest Cobras Genus Pseudohaje
    Australian Brown Snakes Genus Pseudonaja
    Muller’s Snakes Genus Rhinoplocephalus
    Genus Salomonelaps
    Australian Coral Snakes Genus Simoselaps
    Myall’s (Curl) Snakes Genus Suta
    Genus Toxicocalamus
    Rough-scaled Snakes Genus Tropidechis
    Genus Unechis
    Bandy-bandies Genus Vermicella
    Desert Cobras Genus Walterinnesia
    14. ALL SEA SNAKES (Family Hydrophiidae)

    Subfamily Hydrophiinae

    Rudder‑tailed Sea Snakes Genus Acalyptophis
    Genus Aipysurus
    Genus Disteira
    Genus Emydocephalus
    Genus Enhydrina
    Genus Ephalophsis
    Genus Hydrophis
    Genus Hydrelaps
    Genus Kerilia
    Genus Kolpophis
    Genus Lapemis
    Genus Parahydrophis
    Genus Pelamis
    Genus Thalassophis

    Subfamily Laticaudinae

    Sea Kraits Genus Laticauda
    15. ALL VIPERS AND ADDERS (Family Viperidae)

    Subfamily Azemiopinae

    Fea’s Viper Genus Azemiops

    Subfamily Viperinae

    Vipers/Adders Genus Adenorhinos
    Genus Atheris
    Genus Bitis
    Genus Cerastes
    Genus Daboia
    Genus Echis
    Genus Eristicophis
    Genus Pseudocerastes
    Genus Vipera

    Subfamily Causinae

    Toad Vipers Genus Causus
    16. ALL PIT VIPERS (Family Crotalidae)
    Copperheads/Moccasins Genus Agkistrodon
    American Lanceheads Genus Bothrops
    Malayan Pit Vipers Genus Calloselasma
    Rattlesnakes Genus Crotalus
    Sharp-nosed Vipers Genus Deinagkistrodon
    Mamushi Genus Gloydius
    Hump-nosed Vipers Genus Hypnale
    Bushmasters Genus Lachesis
    Pygmy Rattlesnakes Genus Sistrurus
    Asian Lance-headed
    (Bamboo) Vipers Genus Trimeresurus
    Wagler’s Vipers Genus Tropidolaemus
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    Part 4
    Amphibians (Class Amphibia)
    1. MOLE SALAMANDERS (Family Ambystomatidae)
    Northwest Salamander Ambystoma gracile
    Blue‑spotted Salamander Ambystoma laterale
    Spotted Salamander Ambystoma maculatum
    Marbled Salamander Ambystoma opacum
    Small‑mouthed Salamander Ambystoma texanum
    Cope’s Giant Salamander Dicamptodon copei
    Pacific Giant Salamander Dicamptodon ensatus
    2. LUNGLESS SALAMANDERS
    (Family Plethodontidae)
    Red‑backed Salamander Plethodon cinereus
    Slimy Salamander Plethodon glutinosus
    Western Red‑backed
    Salamander Plethodon vehiculum
    Red Salamanders Genus Pseudotriton
    3. WATERDOGS (Family Proteidae)
    Northern Mudpuppy Necturus maculosus
    4. NEWTS (Family Salamandridae)
    Red‑spotted Newt Notopthalmus viridescens
    European Fire Newt Salamandra salamandra
    Roughskinned Newt Taricha granulosa
    Alpine Newt Triturus alpestris
    Northern Crested Newt Triturus cristatus
    Palmate Newt Triturus helveticus
    Common Smooth Newt Triturus vulgaris
    5. TRUE TOADS (Family Bufonidae)
    American Toad Bufo americanus
    Colorado River Toad Bufo alvarius
    Marine (Cane) Toad Bufo marinus
    Woodhouse’s Toad Bufo woodhousei
    6. POISON ARROW FROGS (Family Dendrobatidae)
    Poison Arrow Frogs Genus Phyllobates
    7. TREE FROGS (Family Hylidae)
    Northern Cricket Frog Acris crepitans
    Cope’s Grey Tree Frog Hyla chrysoscelis
    Spring Peeper Hyla crucifer
    Pacific Tree Frog Hyla regilla
    8. TRUE FROGS (Family Ranidae)
    Red‑legged Frog Rana aurora
    American Bullfrog Rana catesbeiana
    Green Frog Rana clamitans
    Agile Frog Rana dalmatina
    Pickeral Frog Rana palustris
    Mink Frog Rana septentrionalis
    Eurasian Common Frog Rana temporaria
    Tarsand Serpents
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    There is no regulation on breeding of herptiles, although there may be municipal laws regarding "intensive agriculture". That would include such things as a coop full of chickens, a barn full of pigs, a garage full of mice, or a basement full of geckos.

    I haven't heard of any recent prosecutions for illegal herps in Alberta. F&W must act on any complaints, and they will act on their own if there is a public threat posed by illegal animals [eg., kraits or perhaps Komodo monitors]. They will also act on at least the more significant violations involving native species. Otherwise, the laws governing exotics in this province have been set up to minimize government involvement and limit it to occasions where there is a genuine concern to the citizens of Alberta. They don't WANT to deal with exotics, so they've minimized the need to.

    It is my experience and observation that the usual response of Fish and Wildlife is to give the person possessing illegal animals the opportunity to remove them to a place where they can legally be possessed, such as Reptile World, a licensed rescue, or out of the province.

    Violating federal law however, is another kettle of fish. Federal prosecution can be up to $100000 fines AND 5 years in prison, per animal! That's if my memory serves correctly. Federal violations are a bit less likely, and would involve WAPPRIITA and possibly SARA.

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    The Act:
    http://www.qp.alberta.ca/574.cfm?pag...=9780779738540
    The Regulations:
    http://www.qp.alberta.ca/574.cfm?pag...=9780779740390
    The Wildlife Act and Wildlife Regulations can still be viewed online by visiting the Queen's printer website, selecting the legislation tab, and then searching alphabetically.
    Last edited by FrogO_Oeyes; 05-23-2009 at 03:25 PM.
    The trend is to post names and numbers of "pets" here. That seems...um...bulky.
    23+ species of salamander
    28+ families and subfamilies of reptile, amphibian, and arachnid.
    Only one has a name. The Beast.

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    Managed to track down the "Health Act" details again.

    ALBERTA REGULATION 238/85
    Public Health Act
    COMMUNICABLE DISEASES REGULATION

    http://www.qp.alberta.ca/574.cfm?pag...=9780779731732
    It still reads:
    10(1) No person shall import, sell, offer for sale or otherwise distribute turtles of the genera Pseudemys, Graptemys, Chrysemys or Chelydra.
    (2) Subsection (1) does not apply to post secondary institutions that obtain prior written authorization from the Chief Medical Officer.
    AR 238/85 s10;96/2005

    A couple reminder notes - this is originally 1985 legislation. Thus, "Pseudemys" in this context could [and IS] taken to include Trachemys as well. Also, although the act states "import", it says so in the context of "otherwise distribute". This could be interpreted [and in practice, it is] to mean "import is ok, if it's for your own use and not to provide them to others".
    The trend is to post names and numbers of "pets" here. That seems...um...bulky.
    23+ species of salamander
    28+ families and subfamilies of reptile, amphibian, and arachnid.
    Only one has a name. The Beast.

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    Just a few updates regarding reading and interpretting the law...

    A number of subspecies of reticulated python, including dwarves, have been named. They are STILL retics, and STILL prohibited! Most are not even considered valid, as their descriptions by Hoser were not properly published.

    Burmese pythons have been elevated to full species, Python bivittatus. When the law was written, they were considered part of P.molurus. Application of the law is based on definitions in effect at the time of writing. They're STILL prohibited. Dwarf Burmese are not taxonomically defined so far; but regardless, they are part of P.bivittatus, and also included under the original ban. PROHIBITED.

    Morelia amethystina has been split. However, by the same principle as above, ALL of the new species are still BANNED. They were included in the original definition of M.amethystina when it was added to the list, and that's where they stay. You cannot possess M.clastolepis, M.nauta, or M.kinghorni.

    Crested newts - are prohibited as "Northern crested newt Triturus cristatus". Although relatively recently raised to a full species, the only "northern" crested newt was T. cristatus cristatus. Since the courts have ruled that BOTH the common AND scientific name MUST apply, all other crested newts are legal, whether as subspecies or full species - T.dobrogicus, T.carnifex, T.karelinii, T.arntzeni. That is, none of these is or ever was "northern".

    In a similar but slightly different vein, ALSO prohibited is "red-spotted newt Notophthalmus viridescens". Only N.viridescens viridescens is or ever was "red-spotted". The species as a whole is the "eastern newt", and only one subspecies is known as red-spotted". Since N.v.louisianensis, N.v.piaropicola, and N.v.dorsalis are not "red-spotted", they are legal. This is an identical situation to the garter snakes, where the non-license "Red-sided garter snake Thamnophis sirtalis" is prohibited from sale. Fish and Wildlife considers eastern, red-spotted, valley, San Francisco, maritime, and any other Thamnophis sirtalis to be perfectly legal to possess and sell, because they are not "red-sided" and only T.s.parietalis is.

    There are likely other similar issues to address, but three of these have come up in the last 24 hours, so I thought I should spell them out.
    The trend is to post names and numbers of "pets" here. That seems...um...bulky.
    23+ species of salamander
    28+ families and subfamilies of reptile, amphibian, and arachnid.
    Only one has a name. The Beast.

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    Latest working link for the regs for anyone wishing to view them

    http://www.qp.alberta.ca/574.cfm?pag...=9780779749782
    "Why fit in when you were born to stand out?" - Dr Seuss

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    QuoteOriginally Posted by joeysgreen View Post
    What I find most updated is in regards to the native species. Have they added extra protection to the boreal toad yet? They're also looking at adding all gartersnakes to the "can't keep list".
    Non-license animals that are lawfully killed or that are
    possessed live in accordance with section 135 of this Regulation,
    other than
    (a) plains garter snake,
    (b) wandering garter snake,
    (c) red-sided garter snake, and
    (d) bull snake,
    are exempt from the application

    135(1) A person may possess any live
    non-license animal except a raccoon, a skunk or a bat of a kind that
    is a wildlife animal.

    And the Bufo boreas [Boreal (Western) Toad] is listed as a Non-License animal.
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